higgins617

No problem man! I'm the opposite, training myself in the ways of C&V as I go now.

amedias

That's a 7 speed Shimano Alivio rear der. (1997 IIRC). Fairly low down in the range (sits below STX) but still a proper named groupset.



Alivio went 8 speed in later years and would say '8 SIS' to the right of the 'A' on the parallelogram, and lose the little cutout by the lower jocket wheel.

later 8 speed version



Over here they were commonly thrown onto touring bikes in the 90s to run triples with wide range cassettes as they have decent capacity and can clear a 32t (or bigger in some cases). They lasted better than the lower end mechs and were more robust and a fair bit cheaper than some of the posher MTB mechs.


As above, not noteworthy, but solid and reliable, but the pivots can get sloppy over time, if it's in good shape it'll keep shifting for another decade or so :-)

higgins617

Look at that, learn something new all the time. Guess it was more of an assumption with the bikes I see it on and the plastic cover on the knuckle

ollo_ollo

Very helpful amedias, Mine seems to be in good shape and handles the 14-32 six speed handily. I do have a nearly new, SunTour ARX set available in my spares. The front ARX is very light, but rear is chunky & heavy. Classique moved to the ARX in 1984 so it would still look "period" if I changed. Don

amedias

If the ARX will clear the biggest sprocket OK then I'd stick that on, but then I'm a sucker for a (proper) Suntour derailleur ;-)

You'll likely struggle to get a 600 Arabesque to play well with that cassette, but it's all about what works in my eyes, period correct or not, go with what you enjoy looking at and what you enjoy using. A bike you like is a bike you'll ride :-)

ollo_ollo

After pricing a few beautiful examples of the spec, long cage, 600 Arabesque derailleurs, I'll likely stick with the Alivio that's on there now, or maybe use the ARX and spend the $$ on tires, bar tape, pads and cables.

Weather today was really nice, so I checked the brakes, stripped off the rack and pump hangar from the Lotus, then enjoyed short ride. Considering its overall neglected state, it was very nice. Smooth shifts too. Hung it in my shop, for the duration.

Still need to put some windows in the Garden shed I built last Fall. The Grand Jubile Mixte Isn't all back together yet, and there are 3 other bikes in line for repairs. So, once our weather breaks, I'll be enjoying some quality shop time. Don

pcb 

Catching up with this thread, got some updates and additions.

This '82 Columbine got a repaint last year, was bright gold earlier in the thread:


Another '82 Columbine, a cousin to the one above, new to this thread:


'83 DiNucci Sportif:


2011 Neo-retro Waterford ST-22 appeared here before, just went 1x, added a rear rack and cleaned up the stem/steeer area a bit:

pcb 

I'll also sneak in a neo-retro 2001 Waterford RS-11, built by Dave Wages not long after leaving Serotta:


And a 2005 Waterford RS-22, with stainless Sachs Newvex lugs:

jetboy 

beautiful! I have been considering building a clean single- is that 9? 10? what did you use and how do you like it vs 2 or 3...

puckett129

My [mostly] spare parts build from a random garage sale Nishiki Riviera ('85-86?) that cost me $10. Had to buy brakes, chainring guard, and 8 speed cassette. This is my first 1x bike; not having to set up the front derailleur was so nice!




I have posted this one before, but I don't think in it's current drop-bar state. It's a '83 Trek 600-something or other that I powedercoated 5 or so years ago. It's my main rider (when alone and not with my kid in tow).

RobbieTunes

Crappy pic, but 22 lbs as you look at it, and geared to tour, even uphill.

Road Fan

Early sport tour, English club racer. These were certainly intended for the riding we call sport tour. Geometry is 71/73 angles, 55 st, 57 tt, fork offset 2 ¼ inches, 45 cm chain stays. Tubing is Reynolds 531 straight gauge tubes, fork and stays. This and the Raleigh Super Lenton were second only to the Raleigh Record Ace in that year, which had butted tubing and a lot of special parts. She had her first bath in decades a few weeks ago. Next, take it apart and grease all the bearings and attack the worst rust with Evaporust and som kind of touch up paint, plus put on my GB rando bars with an aluminum stem. I might have to get a Brooks for it. They came with B15s, 65 years ago!

Road Fan

I really like this!

Road Fan

What is that rear derailleur?

Road Fan

In your signature, that “Ode to the Allvit” is a thing of beauty!

pastorbobnlnh 

That is mtnbkr's rare Joe's CNC RD. I was curious how it worked so he sent it to me for test ride.

I never did like it so I sent it back to CO. It now runs a 9 speed Deore RD on an 8 speed cassette. I'm very pleased with the shifting which is friction.

gomango

Heh, thanks.

It's going to live in Bayern at my BIL's house. That way I won't have to rent when we visit.

We go fairly often, so this will make sense I hope.

Just have to adjust the gearing for the Bavarian Alps and it should be good to go.

Road Fan

I got a nice comment on my Rudge, asking for more information. I thought I would copy my reply here, because maybe someone else is intrigued.

"No derailleur, it uses a Sturmey-Archer AW 3-speed hub, and the frame is designed for a Sturmey-Archer. With the 48/17 sprocket pair, its gearing is 103, 77, 58 gear inches with 27x1 ¼ tires. The tires are Specialized Road Sport, 32 mm wide with wire beads. The rims are the original steel Dunlop Special Lightweight, in really good condition. I've also seen some Paselas with tan sidewalls that look like the original gumwalls.

I scored a 40 hole Super Champion model 58 aluminum rim for the back, which is the harder size to match. The front is 32 holes, which should not be as difficult. I also have a four speed hub for it, an FG with integral generator. The ratios are the same as for the AW, except I think the low gear is about 25% lower, so it should be about 103, 77, 58, 46 gear inches. Not quite what I'd want from a modern compact setup, but pretty decent.

There is some rust on the frame. I've cleaned the chain , but I still need to take it all apart and clean parts. Then I have to de-rust the frame and see about patching the paint."

amedias

I guess this also fits the description of sports tourer. The stays are a bit longer than normal, it has clearance for guards, and rack mounts, but the wheelbase is still under control and it's a very nippy little ride, Reynolds 653 and delightfully just the right amount of bendy for a quick but comfy ride.

It's a Condor Pendio, predecessor to their current Fratello model, and built by UK frame builder Dave Yates for Condor (London Shop)

bikemig 

Very, very nice. I think on the other side of the pond they're more often called audax bikes. It's just a bike in between a touring and a racing bike, optimized for riding long distances. Once upon a time--many years ago--virtually all road bikes were designed this way. Take a look at racing bikes up until and including the 70s; they typically have eyelets and can take fat tires. The French racing bikes with their mafac brakes are a famous example of this. This style of bike never really went out of style in the UK either since your good bike needs to be a rain bike or you're not going to get a lot of miles in. Take a look at this thread. The majority of the posters are American and very few of the bikes have fenders even though sports touring bikes, unlike a racing bike, have room for fenders.

amedias

65Marinoni

My first Marinoni a 70cm BB to top in 1985 ... Every other mechanics at the bike shop called it ''circus bike'' cause monkeys could go through . It's an era before 350-400mm seat post .

The Golden Boy 

:d

bikemig 

I picked up this bike earlier this year and finally got around to building it up 2 days ago. I've ridden it 60 miles since I've built it. It's a fine machine, stable and responsive. The bike originally came with a full shimano 600 group and fairly wide ranging gearing (50/45 chainrings, 13-34 6 speed freewheel) that relied on half step gearing. I prefer cross over gearing so I'm running a compact up front (a Deore triple set up as a double) with 50/34 rings and a 12-30 7 speed freewheel. I swapped out the bar, stem, saddle, and pedals but otherwise kept the bike fairly original. I'm running 700 x 32c gatorskin tires.I also replaced the levers with aero levers. I find them more comfortable for long distance riding. Plus they have a quick release which when coupled with the quick release on the caliper make it a breeze to get the wheels with the 32c tires on and off.

The Golden Boy 

It's sort of like he tried.

But couldn't.